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Hi guys, most of you probably know that dropbox is dead as far as streaming your audio to 5090. Well, there is a workaround, and today I brought my tunes back from the dead using the techniques presented in the FAWM forum. I suggest you learn how to do this hack and bring your audio back. Audio songs don't do any good to be on the board now if the links are dead. Believe me, if you do it enough times you will not have to use the reference anymore. In fact, we won't even have to talk about this anymore. I didn't have very many tunes last year so it didn't take very long to get them all working. By the time I applied the hack a couple times I didn't have to look at how to do it anymore. I worked hard on that music and it was a shame that there was a change in dropbox policy. I have tunes on there that go back 3 or 4 years....links are all dead. But now the ones currently showing on my page (drop me a visit) are all dropbox, and all working. Again, the hack can be found in the FAWM forums. I'll tell you how to do it if I must, but I'd rather you go there and read the discussion. There is a lot of us that were using dropbox last year, and now their tunes don't play. Bummer, but I'm here to help you.

Here is the forum thread at Fawm: http://fawm.org/forums/topic/7463/

@Klaus at fawm gave us this hack:

You should be able to stream your demos from Dropbox without public folders. Copy your demo to a private folder. Right-click demo> share>create a link>copy link. Replace "dropbox.com" with "dl.dropboxusercontent.com" and remove the "?dl=0" parameter.

And @arkka (at fawm) gave us this hack:

Copy the link normally and replace
?dl=0
with
?dl=1#.mp3

While I use the file hosting for here and FAWM, this may come in handy in other locales.

Hi guys, if you are posting to a forum, such as this one, you can change ?dl=0 to ?dl=1

for the jukebox you need the ?dl=1#.mp3

In this case I'm going to use the ?dl=1 to post my newest demo link here as a test. Songwriting credits = James Freed and Jerry Collins

for testing and example: https://www.dropbox.com/s/bak14jof2yadz11/jcollins_headache_city_demo_v1b_eq.mp3?dl=1

@jcollins I clicked the link. The file immediately downloaded to my mac and started playing in iTunes. I would want the link to go to the dropbox file page with a play button for streaming.

@AndyGetch The default does take the listener to dropbox. The default is ?dl=0

https://www.dropbox.com/s/aq2agcam2jh2gzr/jcollins_the_rambling_song_org_demo_v1_eq.mp3?dl=0

To play dropbox mp3 files on the 5090 house mp3 player it must be ?dl=1#.mp3

Edit: I should mention that my preference is "download" because I don't care to listen on my phone or computers. What I do is download and move the files into a folder, which then is moved to my Sansa mp3 player. When I do things like exercise or housework, I usually listen to people's music. Sadly, I sometimes do not go back to comment on the songs. I know people want the comments. If it's good enough, and many are, I will usually leave a note on the members' page that I had downloaded the songs. I don't always do it this way, however, and I usually end up listening on my laptop and making quick comments. Then those songs are "forgotten forever". That's the reality. I still have mp3 from people from 2 or 3 years ago.

After giving this more thought...

I am going to drop "dropbox" completely. I have a box.com account with 50 gigs for life. I got that tip about 4 years ago right here in this group. I don't remember who gave us that tip. They charge now for new customers. It's a monthly charge. I'm talking about having an account. I wouldn't want anybody to think that if you share a link the receiving end has to pay. No, I mean if you want to have your own box account. I've tested this without being logged in, and mp3 files play quickly on their mp3 player. Also, you can download too if you like to.

The downside, of course, is the internal mp3 player here at 5090 and FAWM will not play my songs. Further, it will not show up in the jukebox. That was the whole point about having a "streaming audio" service such as dropbox.

I used kiwi6.com for FAWM this past year. It was alright -- considering it was free -- but sometimes people would have problems.

I have a lot of crazy monthly projects, though, and as I fully manifest what I want to achieve, the established sites will fall further and further short of my needs. I mean, for music, I want sheet music, and maybe in-browser KAR-file support. (That's MIDI with synchronized lyrics, used for karaoke.)

Eventually, I'm going to need my own site. A low-priority project is to currently piece something together.

Any custom site easily works with the jukebox.

Yeah, dropbox really dropped the ball.

So, is kiwi6.com good or not? Any experiences?

What other options are there besides the FAWM hosting? I'd just use Soundcloud, but then the jukebox won't pick up the the songs. I need that sweet jukebox money!

You can create your own site at weebly.com. Including just uploading songs there. I'm not sure what the max upload is. And it's been years since I've tried it. But those files would stream in the songcrafters.org jukebox so I'm assuming (possibly incorrectly) that it will work here.

Fawm hosting is a viable option, mainly because it helps support the site. If I find other options I'll post them. I had a list at one time, but the options have definitely been narrowing the last couple of years.

Yeah, I might just get the FAWM hosting. No fuss.

File Factory - Repeated upload error
mediafire - wouldn't play in FAWM player
Zippyshare - Malware detected
Deezer - Couldn't get it to log in, (cookies enabled is a requirement) and it looks like it won't stream outside of their environment, but I couldn't test.

As a person with a Weebly site myself, I'm pretty sure that file upload / hosting only comes with the intermediate-level (i.e., not even entry level) paid plan, although I may be mistaken.

I've been successfully using the free basic tier of clyp.it for some hosting, although I'm not sure whether it works with the FAWM player. It works fine on Twitter and Facebook, but doesn't work on Wordpress sites, for example, without a special Wordpress / Clyp plugin.

OdilonGreen is correct. It's a paid feature. It once wasn't. I had a couple of mp3 files on the old version. However I cannot add any additional files. I wonder if I could upload a file and then rename it. *ponder*

Why doesn't the Jukebox pick up the SoundCloud songs ?

@Amanda West it has to be ad-free streaming audio to show up in the jukebox. I personally have decided to use external links now. I do have a SoundCloud account but I prefer Box.com now because of storage space and integration with Microsoft Office. Yes, that means no jukebox for me. I figure though that if somebody likes me they will take the necessary second click to hear the audio. This is actually a small group here at 5090. It looks huge to start but really it will be about 100 people for about a month. After two months, hmmm, probably about 30 of us left. You guys all know me and I suspect you will make the extra click to hear the audio. That said, I really like the Jukebox feature too, and many people have left comments that they heard me on the jukebox. Not this year though, and probably never again. Like I said, I like my Box account. Actually, I love it.

So, if I am reading everything correctly, if I put my demos on SoundCloud they won't appear in the Juke Box. How about if I have them on a private server with no adverts ? @Dragondreams do you know if that will work if I put them on 'the' server ? Smile
But, I could also get 50/90 hosting Smile

@Amanda West I like having full control over my files. I don't know how it works with 5090 hosting but my experience in collaboration groups was difficult to have much control, especially when they shut down, and went out of business. We all lost our audio. I don't think "Dropbox" is going anywhere and the "hack" still works. I don't even know if having your own website will provide streaming audio. Probably yes but there is a monthly or annual charge there. If you don't pay or they go out of business you might be screwed, I don't know. I dropped "dropbox" because I want to upload and save high-quality audio, and I would be out of space, and, uh, need to pay a service fee. Anyway, that's all I got. You might try box.com and see if there is a freebie. My friend Jimmy said he got 10 free gigs for signing up. It doesn't support "streaming audio" though = no jukebox. Oh, and I almost forgot to tell you guys that box.com supports FLAC. It plays just like mp3.

I've been graced with my own file hosting on a private site. Yes it works in the jukebox. So if you have a website and want to add files you can do so and they will work in the jukebox. (I'm looking at you, Amanda.)

The problem with the jukebox is that the link must be direct. With soundcloud you are actually using their player instead of the file directly. That's a problem with a lot of hosting sites.

Thank you TC Smile

@Amanda West that's the way I've always done it and my stuff appears in the Juke Box. And yours is on the same server. And there is no chance of the host going bust. Wink

Oh damn! I forgot I bought a domain. I could've hosted at http://juhakeranen.com/

D:

I've purchased a website. The 50/90 output will be available there as a podcast feed as I upload it. As a bonus, my upload process also makes sure the ID3 tags are in-place and normalized.

Though if I'm not doing demos (and instead doing sheet music), I may leverage off-site links so I can do some WebVTT+MP3 stuff.

@Dragondreams cool and thank you Smile